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[Music] [Music] you all right I'm not even open the floor two meters I'm gonna dive right into the real meat battery monitors this is the number one thing that I believe that I do on boats not because it gives us a lot of revenue but because it is absolutely information is power and this takes away the whole mystery of what's happened to your batteries so a battery monitor like in here is actually going to be measuring voltage at the battery and it's actually going to be measuring current going in and out of the battery bank huge current is incredibly incredibly important because with that information the battery monitor is actually able to average over time what is the battery capacity in percentage and it's actually able to track what is the battery it could be 90 percent 95 percent 50 percent and it's also going to tell you all right now you're discharging you're charging at whatever it's sort of like a speedometer so a battery monitor is both an odometer tells you how much you've taken out right how much distance you've covered with your batteries and it also tells you the rate at which you're going you're going to bed why are your batteries being drawn to 30 amps what are you doing why oh I left the chartplotter on and the radars on and I have two Sounders on Oh my nav systems suite is on totally forgot you want to know what the your batteries are not ever expressing to you how they feel or how they're doing unless you have a battery monitor so battery monitors are incredible devices they cost between 250 300 maybe if you go all out for 450 of course there's no end you go and super integrated but something like that costs maybe 250 dollars fuel gauge for your battery state of charge of the batteries I remember that question I was saying oh I don't know how much amp hours am I using a day how am I going to size my battery bank how am I going to size my solar array all this magical information that you have no idea what it is this will tell you this will tell you what your amp our budget is it's going to tell you just simply log it everyday you find an average you like you know on average I use 225 amp hours then you can start sizing everything from there there's all different models Victor on is a big ones and Trax is a big one blue C's makes a really nice one there's all of the choices but those are predominantly the ones we go for and what I like about it is it takes the whole guesswork out of knowing where your batteries are there's no more do you think we're gonna be able to last another day here it's like well the batteries are at 85% we're good so everyone on board doesn't have to follow away my gut feeling is we're good because I can tell you how many times I hear from boaters or partners of voters that tell me the thing I find the most annoying is waking up at 4 o'clock in the morning my inverter is my inverter is beeping meaning low power the refrigerators have died and now I'm talking my food in the refrigerator that you just provided in source on a long trip and I got to start the generators in the middle of the night when I'm in an anchorage which has a little bit of serenity and there's neighbors potentially sailors who are less than understanding about a generator being run and you like and you're a social person in the morning you like to look eye to eye a certain people when you do your tender ID there is nothing you might not care about it but your partner most likely does and that embarrassing moment can be avoided with this because then you know you're like you know what we got to run the generator for longer tonight because we're gonna be 1214 hours without a generator and we need enough power we need about 20% the last the night and right now we don't have enough so you start knowing what your usage is and it takes away the magic out of managing your batteries lastly on this what I would say which is really interesting when you have that you have so much power when you talk to a technician someone who knows batteries the information is so powerful for diagnosing what's happening to your batteries and knowing what's going on because you don't need a voltmeter you're telling me all this information you're sending me this stuff on a datasheet you're taking a picture you're sending to me I'm like okay here's what's happening this and that that you you can actually have people provide you remote support if you call someone you say I think my batteries are dead help the the only answer could be well I need to go on board mean but if you have that I've helped so many boaters in desolation Sound Sunshine Coast Gulf Islands Browns outside of Vancouver Island they tell them like okay here's what's going on here's what's happening look for a dead short there's probably this there's probably that oh no you're fine oh the meters off oh you you have actually intelligence without this you're like something's not right oh okay sure yeah yeah I'm gonna go with that cat right no power it's like a chart you need data you need tests I need that sort of information to be able to narrow down what the problem is so well suited for deep cycle batteries there's problems with installs people obviously don't read the manual clearly but that's okay if you read the manual you follow the manual it will work and the big thing I think which is amazing is once you have voltage right at the battery if your panel has no power and I see battery voltage at the battery I know that the problem is between the batteries in the panel so you might be in pandemonium panic I lost my batteries everything's falling apart my vacation is ruined but the problem is that one of the fuses or switch between your panel and the batteries has blown or was turned off and then suddenly I know well if you've got power the batteries the problem is between the batteries in the panel no problem let's work through it and then suddenly you're like oh I was down stairs changing an oil filter and I was working my engine and I turned the battery switches and then we went away and I was checking and then I came back and then my house battery was dead and I'm like oh my god what's happening and you're like well it's okay you got a battery monitor what's the battery voltage where do I see that oh I'm on the panel at zero I'm like no no that's not the battery that's battery at the panel what's battery voltage at the battery oh it's 29 okay well what did you change in the engine room oh yeah I changed all this switches off because I was changing okay well let's go back boom boom and then suddenly you know everyone's a hero vacations not ruined so it's great all right so that is monitoring yeah questions yeah I saw that state-of-charge drips address I'm gonna keep that for later for the sake of time but yes promising future there's innovation happening believe it or not and all this stuff it is absolutely possible yeah there there is there are things that are happening here's here's in a general rule that I have with innovation for marine as a general rule as you can see I'm a geek ad right I love technology but on my boat when I'm in the middle nowhere I'm a slow adopter I'm like yeah you know what let's see how it works there are some voters that don't mind being first adopters early adopters and we're like but we warn you know you're gonna be the first person to put this on your boat I've never tried we're trying but be opened things might not go as well as the brochure promised and then you let it you know so you don't want to be a first adopter always you have to open eyes right know that if you're a first adopter you're gonna go in there and maybe do it as a backup like if I was gonna put one of those I keep my old going on and I put the new one in because they could be in parallel see how that goes and once you have enough of track record and there's enough first adopters out there that have proven that the marketing is true because that's the key proven then the marketing is true then you're willing to adopt that on your boat but unfortunately not all marketing arms of all companies are necessarily completely understand the limitations of their products sometimes they go to market sooner than they should for various reasons and as a boater you don't necessarily want to be the one doing their product testing that actually happens by the way electronics with a lotta different products so there is a balance to find between going you and waiting a little bit to see what the market actually it's flushes out yeah you absolutely have to you have to cut the cable and put it into yeah the shunt is like that you can also have what's called a CT a current transformer which measures through magnetic flux there's two ways but battery monitors for the most part are actually working through shunts shunts have a known resistance V equals IR if you know what a resistance is and you measure the voltage across you will be able to calculate what the current is and that's what a shunt is a current transformer is a device that measures flux gate every every wire actually emits a magnetic flux and if you put a crown stress there's people will use the word donuts on more advanced boats like north ovens Fleming's and stuff like that where the owners completely go nuts that's why those boats are like five times the price of a normal boat where they monitor everything they're trying to go to Star Trek levels they'll have current transformers on everything now my dream but financially not possible it's just crazy right it's just yeah yeah oh absolutely yeah the question is is your battery monitor going to show you percentage diminishing over time if your battery if you're if for example you don't you're not on flow charging and you're disconnected absolutely it's gonna go 99 depending on what your ghost's loads are some boats have ghost loads that are a lot more than you think they are and this monitor will tell you your like I have all my switches off this is a good way to know that MacGyver was on your boat I have all my switches off and I'm drawing five amps what the hell I'm like oh my god was on your boat he looked at the DC panels like well that's too confusing I'm gonna go straight to the battery because the battery is what I understand and then you look at the battery and sure enough there's like I've seen boats no joke fifteen circuits unsweet fuse on the batteries like there's not enough post they start moving to the other positive post they're like I got this like I'm going right to the battery panel that's hard and there it all switched unfused and then you can't shut off those circuits and they're like well how am i drawing so much it's like well yeah because the no space on the breaker panel they can't be bothered to try to integrate they give up and I call those Ghost loads loads that are unswept and unknown and that takes time the battery monitor would tell you about those loads not individually but it would tell you you have a problem you can tell I love this device a little bit two hundred and fifty three hundred dollars right so think about the value that you get out of a battery monitor I'd say about three hours on average three hours maybe for two depending on average three the key the key which is and this is the key I have countless countless countless owners that have the shunt wired in the wrong place and then we start getting in these argument of discussions that their refrigerator is drawers no power I've had that my fridge is so efficient it doesn't draw power and it's on because the shunt doesn't capture it therefore it draws no power I have had owners that argue with me that their heaters are magic they draw no power either they're just fuel the the fans and the fuel pump are completely power free they don't run like crazy heated arguments I'm like oh god seriously I'm inside voice I'm like I gotta be patient I'm like I know that's what the monitor says but did you ever consider that potentially the monitor is not wired properly now that's the scary part of being about a bold odor and I learned this the hard way because when I bought my boat years ago I assumed that like my car everything was done right and then I realized that things aren't right on a boat very few people have that bar of doing things properly it took years to undo all the MacGyver's all the craziness that was done on my boat to have it be what it should be so if something doesn't seem right something doesn't feels like magic sort of like outside of the realm of normal it's because it's probably not giving you write data or it's wrong or something's not normal so battery monitors the location of the shunt is absolutely utterly critical and I cannot tell you how many boats have it installed at the wrong location just one only one bank and you only need two because you only should only have one house bank for the most part exceptions possible but most people should only have one house battery bank