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[Music] you [Music] all right monitoring okay so we've actually believe or not I've done all of this now pretty much even did the inverter and we're going to talk a little bit about the panel there and we're gonna go into monitoring why is monitoring so important you want to be in the note so question earlier on was Jeff I have a voltmeter on my boat I'm good I don't need a battery monitor I'm like oh okay interesting you must be aware then and we're just sharing knowledge that we both know but let's just remind ourselves that battery voltage is only an indication of capacity if your battery has neither been charged nor discharged for a 24-hour period and therefore when you're reading your volt meter you must stop all discharge in discharge for a 24-hour period let your battery voltage to come to rest like a Harding like a resting heart rate right wait 24 hours look at the volt meter and then make an assessment on the capacity and then start using your batteries again now that seems really plausible and practical on a boat no clearly the only time that's a really plausible is on an engine battery think how often that makes sense you start your engine you use your engine you stop 24 hours later you go and see your voltmeter you've neither used your engine battery nor started it and/or charge it probably for 24 hours good no problem now your battery capacity with a voltmeter on your engine battery's doable how in the world are you going to be able to infer battery capacity off of your house battery when it's used it's like saying oh you know what Jeff I'm gonna figure out if you're healthy or not looking at your heart rate at any given moment and I'm not gonna take into consideration what you're doing as an activity level Oh weird why is your heart rate 160 oh my I'm spinning oh okay why is your heart rate 145 Oh actually I'm going up a bunch of stairs and I'm running I'm working out Oh heart rate is a function of activity level volts is a function of what you've done doing now what you did just a little short while ago what you've been doing for the last 24 hours so you can't use both as an indication of capacity it's a crude method of knowing am I in the ballpark that's all it is am I in the ballpark one thing about AC volts which is great because volts AC volts don't have batteries is having an AC voltmeter on your boat so you know before you connect to shore power if you have low volts coming in because believe it or not in destination marinas right places where they're only open two months of the year and let's be honest they're struggling they're not gonna have the best power grid on the dock in the middle of nowhere and you might come to a marina where there's a bunch of hundred footers that decide to plug in and are running the world like they're connected to North America on the continent and they're on a real grid and the voltage is dropping like free-falling the generator can't keep up with the demand of all these boats so you might be playing into marina that only has 195 volts but you don't know that the marina operators not BC Hydro it doesn't have a techy on the dock measuring what's happening it assumes that everything's fine now if you plug in your boat 295 volts do you think your up AC appliances are gonna have a good time No so before you connect to a dock you always want to know what the output voltage is at that marina right the one you're gonna connect to and that's why the code says that you should have an easy vote meter connected to the line side before you even turn the breaker on you want to know what the AC volts is before you turn the breaker on so you go oh yeah 120 115 I'm good turn the breaker on question nope no not unless you have a boost which is complicated but isolation transformer does not change voltage per se unless you have a boost isolation transformer isolation shred I'm not you know what I'm not gonna go there nope that's fine there's none yeah we're not gonna go there a cat can't time I know unless you guys are willing to spend the evening with me but not gonna happen can't go there I wanted to do isolation transformer there's so much stuff I had to leave I can't do it so basically the big thing about we can talk later on I'm can be here forever but not everyone I'm assuming DC voltmeter big thing that you got to ask yourself this is a common common common question that I get all the time in this mystery my battery monitor my battery is at twelve point six my DC meter on my panels at twelve point four that is because a voltage drop the pressure the voltage downstream of something is not the same thing as the pressure of the source right it's like anything right you start water it's called a head pressure you start something and you go down the pressure is not going to be same downstream so when you're looking at voltage on your boat and you're looking at meters what voltage are you looking at are you looking at the voltage at a load at an appliance like a panel distribution point or are you looking at voltage at the battery right that's very different so that think of mine and know where that voltage is because if you're basing your decisions on if your batteries are charged or not charged based on volts of the panel you might be off by point two point three volts so that's really big these new ole's are amazing old that battery monitor or volt meters had to be you had a source selector and you were normally they were momentary because they actually draw power when they're on the new ones the OLED they're so low power draw that you can leave them on all the time they're like milliamps that's an OLED one see I installed one of those always-on on my engine battery on my boat always there because I think information is power and I want to know that my engine battery is always there that thing is like twenty thirty bucks it's like amazing tiny this big awesome awesome and I know all the time I'm always looking at my DC panel I'm like oh look my engine battery twelve four eight twelve point eight to twelve point seven eight like beautiful this stuff is crude it's sort of like did I hit the ball in the ballpark yeah kind of like you're not gonna make any decisions on this it's like do I have a battery or I don't is it sort of charging I think or is it dead like you've got like maybe three four set points with an analog meter there are very very crude ways of knowing what's happening with your batteries